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Birthing brf cakes too early The PF Cake - Incubation through Birthing; The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) Archive; Misting and Fanning instructions details BRF cakes [Re: velvetmagician] #14278172 - 04/12/11 01:54 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: Also does anybody have any simple methods for birthing BRF cakes inside the jar, without having to fill the whole thing? Or would it be wiser to wait a few more days and buy properly sized jars? I'm pretty excited about my next grow and I'm trying to use what I already have available to get started sooner. Question: 8 brf & vermiculite cakes innoculated with penis envy on 4/20 fully white on may 1 waited until may 14 to place in terrium w/ perlite double end cased with vermiculite 8 days latter still no mushrooms have had great sucess with pf spores . Once jars are fully colonized and sat another week to become solid all the way TLDR; My brf cakes are shrinking inside the jars Time to birth or keep waiting? So, it my first time growing and I'm using PF Tek but I have a couple questions. What is the ratio for adding gypsum to the substrate mix? Incubation through Birthing; The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) Hello all, It occurs to me that I have a gypsum question too. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! I am worried now that I added a bit too much water. The serious growers usually prefer the All-American brand. This eliminates the initial wood transfer and minimizes contamination risk is what I’m thinking. How to productively delay fruiting brf Incubation through Birthing; Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Dark green mold on bottom of fruiting BRF cake -- how to prefent in the A place to discuss the growing, hunting, and the experience of magical fungi. Accidentally I let the some of the cakes partially dry out. As for risk associated with spawning using brf cakes, it's definitely higher than using Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) Archive; Experimental Techniques; Experiencing Mushrooms. AA+ Tub 1: This was 4 half pint brf cakes spawned to 2qt coir/verm,with a light "pseudo casing" applied at spawn. that sgfc is way too big for that amount of cakes. Also, it took my cakes about 9-11 days to pin for the first flush. He does agar work and has some really nice isolated genetics of I have done multiple successful pf tek grows and want to give a shot at transferring my colonized brf cakes to a bulk substrate. That syringe wasn't the cleanest, but usually that isn't an issue with BRF. It looks to me like ,both, yellow About two days ago from today i took out took my cakes out. are birthing these cakes. I built a chamber using an aquarium air pump that is pushing air through 2 rock bublers, up through Breaking up your BRF cake? #9889791 - 03/01/09 12:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: I wanted to know if you are using the PF Tek, can you BRF cakes pinning!! #12420596 - 04/19/10 01:24 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: I dunked them for around 20 hours (didn't roll them) then put I'm concerned about some discoloration on two of my brf cakes. Up until now i havent seen any Hi. The substrate can be anything that will hold the cake, such as a coffee can or jar. Thats about 3 days for colonization, and then the week you are supposed to wait afterwards. This is my first grow with some GT spores that hunter was kind enough to donate to the cause of helping noobsand hopefully this doesn't brand me as ultra-noob too bad I followed the directions for BRF cakes in RR's video, and used it to fill some PP 1 cup plastic containersfirst off, the proportions he gave didn't fill 5 containers on my sidebut alas, got BRF Mycelium Cakes: turning blue = Contams? Started by DiegoSeesMush, March 27, 2010, 10:00:45 AM. If you want to up the amount of nutes for the myc to feed on, then keep the cake ratio the same, just crumble the cake up (onced colonized) and transfer spoonfulls to rye jars, then spawn the rye jars to coir or poo and/or straw. 1 is 98% colonized the other 2 are 75% and 70% can I spawn all 3 to bulk now? It's been a Business, Economics, and Finance. The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; How long CAN I soak BRF cakes? #17610282 - 01/25/13 05:37 PM (11 years, 10 the pressure varying over inches of water is basically too small to factor into time. The easiest temp for me to have them at is about 65-69F. I had my first set of cakes in April and got a staggering 5 grams from 2 flushes on 6 cakes. I asked if I could fruit them in my Marth-style mini greenhouse, and Violet suggested that I just take the top off of my BRF cake jars, wash away the verm, let them soak in the jar over night, and then put them into the Martha. 25cc each site) so will have to return for a refill 3 times with my 10ml needle, to my LC user jar, potentially increasing the chance of Going to put 3 BRF pint size cakes into my FC tomorrow. Next time, take it slow. Do I refrigerate now then sterilise? or Sterilise now then refrigerate and bring to room temp before inoc? I may have too Hi good people of the universe, here is one of my first jars, they are all fully colonised about 4 days ago - its hard for me to tell if they are doing more or if they have stalled? Once fully colonised - how long before birthing? thank you so much for checking out the pic :) So my plan is to make BRF jars but instead of using a shotgun fruiting chamber and fruiting them straight off of the cakes, I will mix up some bulk substrate (bucket tek to pasteurize it) and then break up the cakes and mix then into the substrate in a big container, close it up and let it re-colonize, and then pop it open a crack and mist to Yellow contamination on BRF cake? #10318926 - 05/10/09 08:07 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Too hot? Too cold? Not enough air? All of the above? I just want to make them happy. Out of all the substrates out there, cakes hold the least amount of water. Made a much better incubator which keeps at a stable I dunked and rolled two BRF cakes. The first ine that pinned i took out completely and put it in the The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) Archive; Experimental Techniques; Interesting. I almost threw in the towel on this hobby but I had another syringe to use so I tried a mini mono with WBS>cvg. it's my first posting. Rinse mushroom cake under running water before rehydration. 2. Come on, you know you haven't seen any pictures of fruiting Im sure you have all seen this video as it is probably the noobs (like me) go to video for pf/brf. 43333 psi per foot of depth. The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; There are way too many variables for anyone to tell you how many cakes you're going to need to produce The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; PE brf cakes not fruiting? #27054772 - 11/23/20 11:21 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Yeah. Ive always been under the impression that cobweb is wispy not fluffy. As for risk associated with spawning using brf cakes, it's definitely higher than using grain. The cake is generally moist and dense, and can be made in a variety of flavors. Then, he crumbled 3 brf cakes to about the size of marbles and spread them accross the vermiculite. 3 cakes spawned: 2nd flush: 4 Ape brf cakes spawned: 2nd flush: Another "one cake" mini. Fruit BRF cakes are a good choice for those who are looking for a gluten-free or grain-free option, as brown rice flour is a gluten-free flour. Four BRF cakes were used in the experiment. Question: When I birth the BRF cakes, do I need to do a dunk, a dunk & roll, or just wash the dry vermiculite off and place the cakes in the terrarium? After, say, the first flush I do a dunk& roll and place the cakes immediately back into the FC. This is great, but the only problem is that I will be going out of town in for the weekend on May 2 for four days and won't be able to give them the attention they need. Usually when my jars are colonize I get a few pins before I birth them, should I let the jars colonize normally as if I were going to fruit them before mixing with the bulk substrate or should I skip the couple It's not about wanting to "rush" this last cake- it's more concern of waiting too long on the other 3 already completed cakes. 2 days ago I inoculated another 12 and on Sunday I plan to prepare. The PF Tek method uses a substrate mix made from the following ingredients: Step 7: Birthing. (UPDATE) #16253985 - 05/19/12 12:27 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) Edit : Reply : 5 days is way too early to start worrying. ***(Tip)*** Usually the bottom is the last 5-10% of I made some brf cakes but instead of just brf, I used 50% brf and 50% alder sawdust. Should I still dunk and roll them or are they already hydrated enough to put into my fruiting chamber? Yes and I got multiple large flushes. Reply reply Spawning BRF cakes to coir vs Fruiting BRF Cakes . You need the following supplies: a pressure cooker, brown rice flour, water, and a substrate. I've got a fair amount of BRF cakes that I think are very close to being ready to take out of the jars. 12/27 01/07 Pins! 01/12 This is my first attempt with the PF Tek, and my cakes colonized quite nicely. Thanks, that's really helpful. it's a jumbled mess but i think you catch the drift. Once jars are fully colonized and sat another week to become solid all the way through, birth them carefully. 3 of them were from one batch that already had mushrooms growing in the jars (Golden Teacher). "dunk" place them underwater for 24 hours. is it possible for them to start pinning in the jars before full colonization and nothing be wrong with them (or perhaps whatever was wrong they fight off and everything is ok?) Or is it always a sign that there is a bad contaminant and the The PF Cake - Incubation through Birthing; The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; BRF cakes not colonizing. After birthing them, the mycelium grew through the top layer of vermiculite and turned a bluish colour (possibly a bit of green, but Yellow contamination on BRF cake? #10318926 - 05/10/09 08:07 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Too hot? Too cold? Not enough air? All of the above? I It is important because it gives the cakes pleanty of moisture and will give you a way better yeild. These things get heavily rained on IN FLORIDA and they do just fine. That's why you can increase your yields by spawning to a hydrated bulk substrate. Reply reply Then its time to birth the cakes. 2nd pic was from a prior pf grow, something like 3 spawned to six 250ml jars of verm/coir (50/50). User actions. My thoughts are that once it has lignin from the sawdust to consume as it germinates on the brf it has the sawdust to immediately grow into. My current hypothesis is that using the V-tek's invitro, bottom-watered approach and the potting soil casing on BRF cakes should improve water availability, and thus result in a better yield. Only thing I can think of is the pins might get damaged/bumped when brf cakes not fruiting Share Sort by: Best. Edit: if munch were to come along, he'd probably give his spiel on a properly designed SGFC requires no fanning or misting. 484 likes · 15 talking about this. When this is the case it's time to birth the cake into the fruiting container where the Some of the jars are starting to have the cakes shrink and pull away from the side towards the top of the jars. The simple procedures needed for growing BRF cakes instills the skills needed to eventually move onto grains, and other procedures in mycology that require a higher level of sterile technique. It looks to me like ,both, yellow rhizopus and Aspergillus, which you won't beat. You can start birthing your cakes once the chamber is built. I know the possibilities are endless of where the contam came from, but maybe some words from an experienced grower could help Pops and his new InternA birth a new Monotub cake Substrate / BRF Cake Ingredients. Your 80% colonized Hi all, Can I get an opinion on whether these cakes might fruit? I had birthed them too early before full colonization ( one month in jars). I have foil tents on the top to allow some FAE, so I didn't suspect that to be the problem, but maybe they are getting too much? Any tips on setup, and How many cakes it would take? Ive done brf before, so i was thinking 5chambers with 6cakes each, continuesly?? All answers. I made some brf cakes but instead of just brf, I used 50% brf and 50% alder sawdust. I have two BRF tek jars fully colonized with mycelium but I noticed early pinning like little shrooms are growing inside the jars with no contam. Primarily concerned with psilocybin containing mushrooms, but all psychoactive species are welcome. For example, in my shiitake farm I have a strain that is over-wet after 50 minutes soak time, but another strain that needs a full 3. Search The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) Correct Ratio for Water in BRF Cakes [Re: mewkiebear] #18845364 - 09/15/13 05:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) Edit : Reply : What's up peoples, I have a question and cant find a clear answer. They were 1/2 pint BRF cakes. 5. 7-10 is more likely. And you can touch the cakes, washed or Quote: afrosheen said: Toss it and start over, I promise you they are too wet. 4 of them looked fully colonized, but I believe I birthed them too No just run them under the tap cold water and gently rub off any uncolonised bits if the running water doesnt wash it off. DiegoSeesMush. Should those cakes be left in the dark for a while so the mycelium can grow over the vermiculite Fruit BRF cakes are a type of cake made with brown rice flour and fruits. My theory was that my verm was too coarse and that BRF wasnt evenly distributed and that the mycelium wouldn't spread further. So I'm nervous if I end up waiting an extra week HOW TO REUSE MYCELIUM CAKES. Those keep pinning so early for me. Also, if the BRF cakes are too wet it will slow the AMU Terence McKenna Said: "We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. I used a 15w flouro and it worked just fine. Possible post-birthing BRF cake contaminations #15555271 - 12/22/11 07:41 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: Howdy, I birthed 7 BRF cakes about 11 days ago. I've read bad things about going too long Reply reply This way u don't have to worry about the early ones to rot under the caseing on the side of ur tray/container. Contams can be cut out if they are spotted in a monotub or a cake while they are [technique] cutting brf cakes in half . your cakes are drying out and especially with PE. In the video, he does not birth the cakes by dunk and roll. Put the cake back in the plastic container (wash this container Also does anybody have any simple methods for birthing BRF cakes inside the jar, without having to fill the whole thing? Or would it be wiser to wait a few more days and buy properly sized jars? I'm pretty excited about my next grow and I'm trying to use what I already have available to get started sooner. Technique Has anyone ever cut a fully nocced 1/2 pint sized cake in half in order to use smaller tubs? Could it work? Would it damage the fungal network? Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Colonizing bulk grains is possible without a pressure cooker, agar, LC, or any of that stuff you are too cheap to go buy or learn how to use. Quote: sonoramo said: Quote: Socrateshroom said: 3 out of my 10 brf cakes started pinning in the jars before full colonization. 4-6 days for pins first flush. They take forever to colonize. The nexus of space Re-hydrating BRF cakes? [medicinal] Ok so i've done the pf tek a few times successfully, but the last couple times, my jars have been reeeaally slow to colonize, to the point that (months later) Alright gang so I started out with 12 BRF cakes. but those pinned before i birthed them too the penis envy never pinned . (Broke boi tek) simple and easy without a presure cooker. Hey folks, quick question here about the timing of birthing jars. The PF Cake - Birthing [technique] cutting brf cakes in half . Just wanna remind everyone especially I have 6 brf/verm cakes that are ready for a fruiting chamber. does any of that make sense? it's late and I'm tired. It will stall growth and damage the mycelia. tc ----- Laterz, Road Birthing PF jars too early *DELETED* [Re: lsg1] #6914008 - 05/14/07 12:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) Edit : Reply What are you referring to rye? Or brf? Brf cakes should never be shaken. That slow growth and low temps let the tam grab hold. Verm 2, water 1, brf 1. I have made a bunch of brf cakes. Hi Guys Is this too dry? Any hope in saving these brf cakes?? Next step after birthing BRF cakes --> shred to bulk shoebox tek: bugboy91: 4,775: 9 : 08/12/22 07:46 AM by Gushroom: colonised brf pulling away from jars: metalchimp: 696: 3 : 12/31/02 02:19 PM by Angry Mycologist: Extra information: Attached is a link to a few pictures of my cakes after their first flush. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Cobweb mold before The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) Mixing brf cakes and rye grain as Early Bird Cakes is based in Papakura and specialises in creating delicious custom cakes for any special occasion. kunstschroom • Way too cold,,,way way too cold. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Dude, my cakes did the same thing after birthing. (i like to get a tupperware container, and fill it up till it overflows. This is a hobby of Buddhist patience. Additionally, if the substrate is depleted of available first pins on first flush came in 4 days to 6 days on most cakes. If you take the cake out of the box you can find some mushrooms on the sides. I'm using 8 smaller 1/4pt Congratulations on your first grow. Although it’s not the highest-yielding method available, it is among the most For the hunting, growing, and consuming of mushrooms. They can pin and fruit in the jar (invitro). 2nd flush. New Add a Comment. I should be able to maintain 97-99% humidity and I'll have almost exactly 12 hours of indirect sunlight a day. Now I see the reason why half-pint wide-mouthed jars are the best due to the space and length of time for brf cakes to colonize ratio. Below is a list of the necessary equipment you'll need when you move from BRF cakes to bulk Growing 12 BRF Half Pint Cakes, 8 Mexicana and 4 Pink Buffalo. They all stalled out during colonization due to the bottom of my incubator being too hot. Spent substrate as an inoculant for a fresh substrate gives the reused mycelium a nutrient boost. Early BRF cakes. 3. Check your cakes from all sides. One Ape cake spawned 1:2 in my 2. A substrate will not form pins until it's fully colonized. Print. My theory was that my verm was too coarse and that BRF wasnt evenly distributed and that the mycelium wouldn't I've got a fair amount of BRF cakes that I think are very close to being ready to take out of the jars. I recently made some BRF cakes which were put into a fruiting chamber after dunking and rolling. me too. Now since HybridprX claims that the mycelium dies after 30 hours or so I am thinking that I will dunk a few cakes for 72 hours. I then waited a week thinking low temps would be screwing with fruiting. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. it's still early i know. I'd watch Do a 12 hr dunk and yes, roll them again. I think fruiting cakes as cakes is a waste of time. I actually still had too much water after baking, so I added some verm to reach field capacity. First, wash your hands well and put on some clean gloves. Technique Has anyone ever cut a fully nocced 1/2 pint sized cake in half in order to use smaller tubs? Could it work? Would it damage the fungal network? Hahaha I get it man mushrooms make you more empathetic and i too often feel a connection to my mycilium. 1cc is generally pretty good per jar for either of the two I mentioned. March 04, 2013, 11:31:25 AM. 7 grams dry for the first flush. Then, open the jar and pour out the barrier layer of dry All content showed in this video is for educational research purposes only I have a few almost fully colonised BRF cakes but I definitely mixed the substrate up wrong and its too thick and solid. I am also a new cultivator. "? Then you are in the right place. I want to try this out because I work constantly and would prefer to have a Did you noc some BRF, or grains? Not a lot of solution is needed for either. At this stage, the cakes weight 50 - 55g. Go Down Pages 1. The cake There are dangerous molds and fungus that look nearly identical to myc and the only way to know is smell. As soon as you open the jar it's introduced to you only should only have to wait 3 days after the outside of your cake looks fully colonized to birth your cakes reason being you want to make sure that the inside of the cake is fully colonized. I dunk and roll as soon as I birth them, then I just dunk them after every flush. To start, I had 1 golden teacher cake produce 2 I have 3 BRF cakes that have been going since July 22nd. One popular method for spawning BRF cakes in bulk involves using a shoebox-style container and a mix of prepped coir. tomorrow will be two weeks since i birthed them and i just picked last shrooms of a few cakes of the first flush. Brown rice flour (BRF) A pressure cooker. 3 APE brf cakes spawned to 2qts coir/verm. The first flush went reasonably well; I got about 2g I have a few BRF/Verm cakes that are nearing 100% colonization. Do not open jars till fully colonized and consolidated. The idea of this method was that the BRF cake provided everything necessary for the I've had my dunked and rolled cakes in my fruiting chamber for 4 days now. I would actually suggest 24 hrs. 5 weeks. There are a few different ways to reuse spent cakes, some of which will yield fresh fruits. 2 flushes netted 70 grams Not to sure what causes it other than bruising or too much air. Too much light, overcrowding, and contamination can also prevent mushrooms from producing. You should dunk your cakes after removing them from the jars. The only time I grew cakes they had a yellow tint when birthing and they were fine. FC problems? Hi, Long time lurker and first time poster. I have 4 cakes that all are producing many pins but they either produce small shrooms (1-2 inches) which then mature or the pins don't grow at all. Birthing early. What should I do? Started by PCCP, May 24, 2011, 01:55:55 AM. My question is do you guys think this would be a mistake and too too big of a gamble? Re: Birthing early #1. Best. Blue bruising is a reaction of the psylosiben oxidizing. BUT no contam so far. It could take up to 65 days . 3-4 days after (cake 1) One more example and results of Cobweb Mold treatment. The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) I have 2 brf cakes in my fruiting chamber, been there for 6 days. Fresh spores and good conditions are all it takes. this maybe needs a new post, but here goes: on day 10 after inoculation, of my six 1/2 pt jars, three are 90-95% colonized. although it is a proven fact since they're cubes, if you play salsa music full volume 12 hours a day to get a better yield. Next step after birthing BRF cakes --> shred to bulk shoebox tek [Re: hazyhorse] #27384617 - 07/12/21 03:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) Edit : SlightlyStoned said: Ive got some brf cakes still in the jars that are epinning. It's all about the increase water capacity. ‘BRF cake’ is a key I inoculated my BRF cakes on 10/12. Spreading out the myc has nothing to do with it. Its crowded, likely microclimated between all those cakes. I am going to do a comparison between dunking and using a straw to add moisture. Create your own roadshow. Heres an experiment of how much water gets absorbed by a BRF cake after different amounts of time Water absoprtion in BRF cakes -[EXPERIMENT] by Mateah Birthing a cake is pretty straight forward. 75, 80, 85, even 90 60-65🥶🥶🥶☃️⛄ Reply reply SchroederWV • Next time wait until you see pins to birth cake. If it's really that bad Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. some cakes are moist and move around in one big, jar shaped clump inside of the jar, while others are too dry and are mainly all crumbly like rye grain mixture. That said, there must be some reason that everyone from PF himself to Roadkill & co. After putting 4 cakes into a fruiting chamber, after 3 weeks I only had harvested around 2 - 3 small to average mushrooms per cake. BRF is available in health food shops either already ground, sometimes though there is only whole brown rice available. I dunk cakes after birthing with pins all the time and they are ok. Crypto Pops and his new InternA birth a new Monotub cake There are fats and proteins in there, too, to give a new mother energy after the hard work of birthing a baby. then drop the cake, or cakes into it allowing it to over flow more, and then push the lid down on it, pushing the cake down, and letting it overflow till the container is sealed shut. Colonization took 2 months (1/2 pint brf) and it was 18 days from birth to first pins. means that there is somewhat contamination but the mycelium is Some of the jars are starting to have the cakes shrink and pull away from the side towards the top of the jars. If there is too much water in the bowl, pour the wet vermiculite in a strainer and let the excess water drain for a minute. Top. I should be able to maintain 97-99% humidity and I'll have A common mistake is to get the perlite too wet, and end up with a swamp of water and perlite that is very difficult to clean up, and will drown the cakes. You can dunk it for 24 hrs too, it doesn't really matter. I'm waiting for about a week now after birth and nothing happens. Rinse each cake thoroughly under the running water. so unless you're dunking in the The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) Green mold possibly on BRF Cake [Re: EntheogenicPeace] 1 #14736684 - 07/08/11 02:46 PM (13 years, 4 months ago from my experience when dealing with a little patch on the surface somewhere at a relatively early Pf tek is always the same. 17. I haven't started seeing a god pinset till about 14-16 First mold on colonizing BRF cakes? #22611760 - 12/04/15 07:21 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : are these growths the result of too high a humidity or heat during colonization? If you spot contams before or after birthing toss the cake. Birth your cakes from the jar. Cheers! Ratio for BRF cakes are 2:1:1 verm:water:brf. 5 Gal Poor Mans Pod Fruiting Chamber with a air pump producing a maximum of 270 liters of air per hour with two air stones running the length of the tub connected to it. I would put them at 10 days away from DnR time. I don't suffer from insanity, I actually rather enjoy it. -To keep costs low I have 12 brf cakes in pint-sized wide-mouthed jars that are all 3/4 the way colonized and have been consolidated in the middle for a week now. Taking A Birth Control Pill Too Early (Within 3 Hours Of Your Usual Dose) If you take your birth control pill just a few hours (less than 3) before your usual dose, you should be fine in most cases to just consider it your daily Quote: bassfrequences said: If you compare rye, horse poo, cakes, well cakes are the biggest yeild if you compare the amount of substrate used (ex: yeild per cup of flour, cup of rye) but ironically if you want to grow larger The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) BRF Cakes not pinning/fruiting after Posted by u/Dilly-day-dreamer - 2 votes and 11 comments Advice Needed, BRF cakes not pinning after upwards of a month. Started by zebdead, March 03, 2013, 11:54:28 PM. Ive washed off the uncolonized portion of a pftek cake before with no issues, in the future use 1/2pint jars to avoid stalling and if Super quick, i cant seem to find the info I’m looking for so 🤞 you guys and gals can help! I have 2 BRF cakes soaking. Then its time to birth the cakes. I have foil tents on the top to allow some FAE, so I didn't suspect that to be the problem, but maybe they are getting too much? Ratio for BRF cakes are 2:1:1 verm:water:brf. I remember reading in a book once about leaving the pf cakes in the half pint jars for the entire fruiting Usually anything lurking won't stand a chance on BRF since the myc fucks it's Christmas pretty fast. Shake too soon, and not enough myc is distributed, and the jars will still colonize unevenly and slowly. They do not seem to have any pins on them, but both cakes have grown super fluffy over the entire cake. There are dangerous molds and fungus that look nearly identical to myc and the only way to know is smell. Between two cakes I only got 1. Only thing I can think of is the pins might get damaged/bumped when The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) Also, 6 out of my 8 jars became bacterially contaminated. ) but even if u dunk it, it should be fine. I stopped spraying them. 5 weeks and I'm not sure if 1 pint Brf/Rye hybrid cakes pinning in GH setup (Green house) - Tmethyl Cubensis pins in monotub, all aiming towards light source (window) - Tmethyl Cubensis pins growing Posted by u/pineappl3p1zza - 2 votes and 2 comments BRF is resistant to bacterial blooms due to the way the granular structure holds water and prevents spreading. It's been very slow for the past 1. Can I "dunk" just in a Ziploc bag? Also I've I want to inoc jars with 4-5cc each (1-1. 5qt "one cake" mono. It's Never Too Early for Cake specializes in cakes, cupcakes, cookies, cookie bouquets, and more! Growing 12 BRF Half Pint Cakes, 8 Mexicana and 4 Pink Buffalo. After a successful first generation (on its third flush now) my second generation seems to have gone back into colonization mode after birthing on 10/21. my full cakes will start pinning before I birth them from the jars. Most common bacterial infections will spread via Flagellum motility in Your consolidated cake should be able to protect itself from the limited contamination rolling in Verm will introduce. . I have read a lot of ppl saying Quote: wutang said: lol think about what you just said no you cant use a spent cake because theres nothing in it i reccomend some reading here at the shroomery a little Update: I tried to birth it per suggestions, but the cake hadn't pulled back from the jar and it wouldn't come out even with considerable thumping. Suggestion: make a test cake. INOCULATE FRESH SUBSTRATE. Unless you are pinning early, make sure to DROWN SWIM if you are using it. Only a very small part mind (I chucked like 5 others that did the same at 75 With a PC you have more applications. So, this is my first attempt at growing mushrooms. In a PC you can sterilize, BRF cakes, grains, Liquid food for LC's, homemade agar, and distilled water in jars for making a print into Before cobweb treatment (cake 1) Mushroom fruiting after cobweb mold treatment. They had stopped making progress for about a week. Take your cakes that have been 100% colonized and consolidated for seven days to a clean countertop and follow the step below: Do not open jars till fully colonized and consolidated. PE takes longer to fruit so you need Personally, I have had good results soaking my small brf cakes for one to three hours, they seem totally saturated after that time and I notice no difference to soaking them for 24 hours. I usually s2b and have some last minute questions. Attached is a link to a few pictures of my cakes after their first flush. Hey guys I'm wondering what the is average wait time for brf cakes to pin? Misting 3x a day Have a legit sgfc with holes on all sides/perlite Fanning 5x a day Temp 68 to 77 12/12 Dunked and rolled then your cakes were probably too wet to begin with. Spawn them at a 1:2 ratio, don't exceed 3cm of substrate depth with cakes or they'll be going to waste. more to come. 6. They could be pinned as a result of the microclimate between the Dunking is necessary for brf because of its minimal capacity for moisture. Get enough perlite to If you’ve stumbled upon the term ‘BRF cake’ in the context of mushroom cultivation and are puzzled, thinking it’s a new kind of dessert, let me clear the air for you. I have seen nothing but good stuff about the mycelium falcon and 3g but I went with a guy who messaged me after I commented on his post. Birthing is the name given to the process of removing your fully colonized BRF cake from the jar. Mushroom cake preparation for rehydrating. I was sort of under the impression you have inoculate agar plates and only use overlapping strains. They have had natural light, but not a super bright spot in the house. I’ve developed – and tested – a recipe just for you. Distilled water, 2% Honey and 2% dextrose filled in a jar and just put in an oven at 110°C (230°F). Check out the "lets grow mushrooms PF-tek videos on youtube. Moving away from cakes to tubs Hey guys I'm wondering what the is average wait time for brf cakes to pin? Misting 3x a day Have a legit sgfc with holes on all sides/perlite Fanning 5x a day Temp 68 to 77 12/12 Dunked and rolled then your cakes were probably too wet to begin with. need some advice on birthing brf cakes. any help would be great thanks The cake could very well be dry, but there isn’t much you can do about it without risking contamination, it’s more of a lesson learned for the next time you make BRF. I used your advice guys and waited overnight to inoculate. Almost would've tossed it, thanks for the insight Basically, I am lazy and don't want to set up my SGFC again, but I have BRF cakes that are almost fully colonized. Next step after birthing BRF cakes --> shred to bulk shoebox tek: bugboy91: 4,831: 9 : 08/12/22 07:46 AM by Gushroom: beautiful pinset! chunder: 850: 1 : The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information Will BRF cakes inoculate Straw properly? #814854 - 08/13/02 10:20 AM i was having dificulty with any type of grain that was available to me at the time. Open comment sort options. I cold shocked them, dunk and rolled 'em and placed 'em in my SG FC yesterday. One of the reasons being is breaking the brf up requires you tho actually pull out the cakes and break by hand. My When birthing, I just removed any invitro fruits, rinse the cakes and then used a cheese grater on 3 to 4 half pint pf cakes per shoebox. A couple months ago I started a bone stock BRF tek using Golden EXPERIMENT To determine exactly how much water a fully colonized 1/2 pint BRF cake absorbes during dunking process. My 8oz are about 50% after a week, so this isn't really out of the norm, time wise. If you injected them into the center of the cake they could be growing and you just can't see it yet. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information Agar to BRF cake question #21537285 - 04/12/15 01:04 PM (9 years, 7 months I had a cake recently that I had to perform surgery on because of stalled growth and early pinning. I personally haven't had ANY contams yet! I'm a broke boi too so this post caught my interest ;) I made a liquid culture 3 days ago. In my experience with PF Tek, my full cakes will start pinning before I birth them from the jars. I continued to let them consolidate in the jars for another 7(ish) days before birthing. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! brf cakes not fruiting Share Sort by: Best. If you cannot make and inoculate 12 BRF cakes under sterile conditions you have almost no hope of doing the same with grain jars. Do you find yourself thinking, "Hmmm, brf cakes suck. When reusing mycelium cakes, bear in mind the two concepts above: competitive exclusion and senescence. I birthed the BRF cakes a week ago (11/16) and today being the 23rd, I've yet to see pins. They were taking forever to colonize. Bruised a few pins and abandoned the I think the size of the cake matters, a half pint is probably rehydrated in 8 hours in the frig, larger would take longer. I dont have much experience (just harvested first cakes a few days ago) but I'd say you have too much light. BRF cakes - 2nd flush issues :P . water pressure increases 0. pwnedass • skipped brf cakes. Vermiculite – see below on choosing between fine/coarse verm. If you birth too early and your cakes sit in the fruiting chamber for 2 weeks, they can dry out and people begin to do crazy things. metabolites ,ive had it plenty in brf and straw , lil early to have though. I achieved full colonization in around 2. As far as grains go? Its alright to shake a grain jar ONLY within 30-50% colonization. If it's really that bad If you birth too early and your cakes sit in the fruiting chamber for 2 weeks, they can dry out and people begin to do crazy things. Should BRF cakes smell like this? The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; On early tries I did a few mistings here and there about 4-5 in total and progressively less and less misting until the last two A fully colonized cake can remain in the jar for up to 30-45 days after its 100% colonized without affecting the life or production of mushrooms. Browse our range of themed cakes or make an enquiry about a cake to suit The PF Cake - Incubation through Birthing; The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; What exactly is this white blob on the side of the brf cake in the fruiting You HAVE to fully submerge the cakes to get proper moisture intake,(and more prolific flushes) just floating on the surface never works correctly, I've tested this with cakes Hi good people of the universe, here is one of my first jars, they are all fully colonised about 4 days ago - its hard for me to tell if they are doing more or if they have stalled? Once fully Once fully colonize, you would birth the jar and let the mushroom pin directly from the BRF cakes. There was a light bluish tint across the mycelium on these cakes after dunking, which I assumed was bruising. Why is this? Do I This is my second attempt at growing. three are more like 60%. I have 4 pf cakes but no fruitng for two weeks just moderate Fluffy Myceliums on the Cakes. This video will be a brief introduction to what pf tek is and how to prepare brown rice flour cakes as s It's really about finding a happy medium. After Well guys. The mycelium initially covered the top and some of the sides but wasn't going anywhere near the bottom. meaning that there isnt enough FAE and How To Birth Brf Cakes. Pick them also. You want your cake/shrooms to glisten a bit, but you don't want them to be dripping wet. Usually anything lurking won't stand a chance on BRF since the myc fucks it's Christmas pretty fast. All fruit and pins can be My current hypothesis is that using the V-tek's invitro, bottom-watered approach and the potting soil casing on BRF cakes should improve water availability, and thus result in a You should wait 1 week after your cake is 100% colonized before you birth and place in your fruiting chamber. Got 1oz and abit dry. But I'm a broke boi and won't spend money on a pressure cooker. Having read Too early to be worried? Thanks to all comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. I inoculated 6 half-pint jars, of which 3 became colonized. Birthing mycelial cakes involves carefully pouring a mixture of grains, such as rye or millet, that have been colonized by mycelium into a sterile container. Misting while pointing the sprayer directly at a cake can bruise the cake, or even the mushrooms. Hopefully the ratio of coir to verm isn't too off now. The colonised areas will stick together pretty well so dont worry. A 1:2 ratio of BRF cake to coir is typically recommended for good yield and contamination prevention. this ^ also, hate to ask the obvious, but On average how long does it usually take to fully colonize a half pint brf jar. It comes with suggestions for personalizing your Groaning Cake and features a maple cream cheese icing that will leave everyone drooling. Shake too late, and the extra time allowed for it further colonize, is essentially wasted, as the jar has to recover, and recolonize again anyways. First pic was pf 5 pf cakes spawned to 10 250ml jars of manure. Alternatively If you just birth a cake that's visibly colonized on the outside but still possibly needs more time to consolidate the inside, you'll have a good chance to still get fruits as the myc isn't trying to recover from being broken up. i was not diligent about adding the same amount of spores to each of the holes in the lid, and possibly missed one hole in some of these (careless!). -----How To Trip Ultimate Tek Compendium BRF cakes turning blue [Re: blackmamba7] #18691135 - 08/11/13 12:17 PM It would have been a good idea to have dunked them after the first flush. some were faster than others. When this is the case it's time to birth the cake into the fruiting container where the Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Felt pretty bad when I had to leave my tubs Heya folks, having some issues with fruiting my 2nd generation of BRF cakes in a SGFC. my plan was to take the lid off the pot when it's ready and birth it in the bag that came with the kit. 4oz jars help a bit too. Growing mushrooms on BRF cakes Things needed: For making BRF jars: Mason jars – 1/2 pint wide-mouth jars are the best – see jar alternatives in the appendix. I got about 7g dry from 8 cakes(not the best, they were slow to start. I’m sure the same thing can be accomplished in BRF cakes but I think the typical method is rye berries rather than a cake because you can distribute the strains by shaking the jar as the mycelium grows in the rye. 2 parts verm, 1 part water, 1 part BRF. Extras: “PF tek” [i] is a mushroom-growing technique developed by a grower who used the nick-name Psilocybe Fantasticus, or PF for short. Also instead of crumbling u can break into large chunks BRF cakes What I want to do now however - is break my brf cakes up into a bulk substrate (such as coco coir) Once I sterilize the coco coir, what else do I put with the bulk substrate? And what is the This is my first grow with some GT spores that hunter was kind enough to donate to the cause of helping noobsand hopefully this doesn't brand me as ultra-noob too bad I You have WAAAAAY too many cakes inside of that thing. The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information; Experimental Techniques (outdated info) Green mold possibly on BRF Cake [Re: EntheogenicPeace] 1 #14736684 - 07/08/11 02:46 PM (13 years, 4 months ago from my experience when dealing with a little patch on the surface somewhere at a relatively early It's Never Too Early For Cake. They are . I didn't now that during colonization I needed humid air. one simply substitutes aspen shavings or good mews kitty Incubation through Birthing; Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe cubensis Strain Information My BRF cake invitro pin harvest! #18751607 - 08/24/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: Check em out!-----When all seems lost it has been neglected for too long to be found Extras: Top: MrFile Registered So my plan is to make BRF jars but instead of using a shotgun fruiting chamber and fruiting them straight off of the cakes, I will mix up some bulk substrate (bucket tek to pasteurize it) and then break up the cakes and mix then into the substrate in a big container, close it up and let it re-colonize, and then pop it open a crack and mist to 4. I removed the light front the cover and hung it off to the side on a 12 hour on 12 hour off schedule. I'm using Fish Tank Bubbler and Saran Wraps to cover the top so the I want to use a monotub (56qts I think?) with 6, 1in polyfill holes and perlite at the bottom to fruit about 6-8 brf cakes. I recently had a BRF cake taking a bit too long colonizing and I smacked the jar around a bit. HELP!!! I am using the pf tek method with rice flour and verm . I'd give it a full two weeks before getting concerned. or a lack of necessary nutrients. Acquiring proper equipment. Going to put 3 BRF pint size cakes into my FC tomorrow. If you're getting pins then the substrate is fully colonized. Finally, he put the lid on the container and put it in a warm, dark place. And the tops were starting to pin. Previous May 24, 2011, 05:30:53 AM by PCCP I've made a new batch of BRF cakes but realised I won't be ready to inoc for another 6-9 days. After that, he added another 1/2 inch layer of damp, sterlized vermiculite to cover the crumbled brf cakes. RogerRabbit said: Many strains of mycelium are more dense than others and need longer soak times. Previous topic - Next topic. Progress was great for the first 2. I had birthed them too early before full colonization ( one month in jars). Now, that being said, full colonization is reached when the entire substrate is colonized by mushroom mycelium, OR when part of it is colonized by a contaminant and the mushroom mycelium runs up against the contaminant. This is great, but the only problem is that I will be going out of town in for the weekend on Part 6 – Birthing Your Cakes / Dunk & Roll. How to: At home BRF cakes. I fanned twice a day and ran the air pump 12 hours on and off. My recipe was 1/4 cup of brown rice powder 1/2 cup of vermiculite 60 cc's water I It can take spores a long time to germinate. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! This is part one of a three part series about PF TEK. There are fats and proteins in there, too, to give a new mother energy after the hard work of birthing a baby. ===== ===== ===== Step 6: Birthing, Dunking and Rolling So, you want to skip the dunk and roll? Well. Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. cake tek works great for wood lovers too. xuowixdazujfplfakzfmyvlbrqatsxbjsxvwbdjugmvjrowmbt